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Is Allah the name of God in the Bible? 2 by Nayzak Is Allah the name of God in the Bible? 2 by Nayzak
Assalaamu alaikum [Peace be to you],

from time to time, I still get some Christians coming here to argue that Allah is not the God of their Bible. although I already talked about this issue in a previous work of mine [link] . It appears It was not convincing enough. Alright. This time, I am not going to say anything. I will only quote what Christians say in this regards. Precisely Arab Christians.


This text is my own translation from an article in The Official Website of St. Takla Haymanout Coptic Orthodox Church. The original article [link] is in Arabic, and I simply tried to translate most of it.
In the end of this article, I provide my own remarks about the article.
This article does not represent my views and does not represent Islamic views of the God. it simply represent Christian views by the author of the article. if you disagree with what the author says, feel free to contact them in the link above.

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:bulletred:هل كلمة "الله" هي حِكر على أو من ابتداع الإسلام؟
Is Allah an Islamic invention/monopoly?

Question:
The word Allah is an Islamic word. why do you use it? and do you have proof of its existence in the Holy Bible?



The word Allah is mentioned in the holy Bible. and that was before Islam[1]. it is mentioned 2246 times. and to be sure of its biblical origin, you only have to read the first verse of the first book of the holy Bible. You will find it there. and You will find it there in the last book of the New testament of Allah's book...
Indeed the Arabic translations of the holy Bible preceded Islam[1]. attempts to translate the Bible into Arabic started from the early age of Christianity. Arabic language is not an invention of the Qur'an[2]. it is simply a language in which it was written.

It is unthinkable to imagine that the early Christian missionaries who spread the Christian faith in Arabia centuries before Islam have neglected providing their people with a translation of the biblical books into the Arabic tongue.
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Another thing. If you say that Allah is a name, then it would have been translated into Allah or Alah in the translations of the Bible. But in fact, it is translated into God (in English) and Vnou (in Coptic)... and so on. It is just a word. just like the Lord, the God and Creator. and it is not one of Allah's names[3]. and among the details that many people neglect is that the name of the Islamic prophet was "Mohammed ibn Abd-Allah ibn Abd-AlMuttalib". so his father's name include the name Allah. was his father a Muslim[4]? or did his name change after Islam? or does this prove that the word was used before Islam.

Allah is one. I mean, there is no god for the Christians. and god for the Muslims... and so on. he is One god for all people. the difference is the understanding of each religion about Allah -blessed be his name-. The Creator of all that exists is One. but not all people have the same idea of this god. When I use the word Allah, I use it in its meaning of the Lord the Creator. and of course this has no relation to the Qur'anic understanding of Allah. There is no problem in using the word (Allah) as long as it is clear that I am not talking about the god of Islam or Allah according to Qur'anic understanding.

Anyway, Allah -glory be to him- can not be limited or described. and there is no language on Earth that can talk about him -blessed be his name-. So Allah is not a word or a description of a deity of any religion. he is the Creator. "For we live, move, and exist because of him;" acts 17:28[5]

here are over 2000 verses containing the word Allah from the Old testament and New testament in the holy Bible:

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[link]
scroll down and enjoy the Arabic wall of text. the word Allah in Arabic is written الله so even if you know nothing in Arabic, you can spot this word 2000 times in the biblical verses.

In that webpage, you can also see a big Arabic calligraphy of the word Allah, written in Thuluth script and Designed by Michael Ghaly specially for the St. Takla Haymanout Coptic Orthodox Church website. it is exactly what you see in many Islamic calligraphy artworks.



:bulletred: MY REMARKS:
:bulletgreen: [1] the author of this article assumes that Islam was founded by the prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him- in the seventh century. this is wrong because Islam was the religion preached by all prophets of the God since the beginning of time. (check this for more of the definition of Islam [link] )
Saying the Bible came before Islam is a false statement. But saying the Bible came before the Qur'an is correct.
:bulletgreen: [2] true. the Qur'an does not claim to invent the Arabic language. It does not claim to invent the name Allah. Arabic was the language spoken by Arabs for centuries. One of the reasons the Qur'an was revealed in Arabic is so that the Arabs to whom it was revealed could understand it.
:bulletgreen: [3] "Allah is not one of Allah's names" this statement by the author does not make sense to me. especially that they provide over 2000 verses where Allah is used as God's name.
Besides, contrary to the words Lord, Creator and god (which can be used for other than the Almighty God), the word Allah is never used for anything or anyone but God. which makes it a special name of The God.
:bulletgreen: [4] The father of prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him- was called Abd-Allah -also spelled Abdullah- (translated Servant of Allah). This name was also used by Jews in Arabia even before Mohammed. Before the coming of the last prophet of Islam, the Arabs knew Allah. it was the God of the religion preached by Abraham -peace be upon him- many centuries ago. The only problem was that their understanding of the God was corrupted with time. that's why the God sent a prophet to them to correct that misunderstanding.
:bulletgreen: [5] In KJV, acts 17:28 says:
"For in him we live, and move, and have our being..."
but I find it a little different in meaning from the Arabic verse quoted in the original text "بِهِ نَحْيَا وَنَتَحَرَّكُ وَنُوجَدُ" Checking different translations in [link] I found that the International Standard Version (2012) and Aramaic Bible in Plain English (2010) are closer in meaning to the Arabic verse. thus I used the ISV.

I hope this was beneficial.


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If you are a Christian and still want to claim that Allah is not the name of the God in the Bible, you gotta convince all your Arab Christian brethren to remove "Allah" from all their Bibles and all their Churches and all their websites. unless they do that and replace it with another word, I will not take you seriously and your claim is baseless.

I think I provided enough evidence that Allah is indeed the Arabic name for the God in the Bible of Arab Christians and Jews. what I need to do next is to deal with the differences in the understanding of Allah between the Abrahamic religions. I will do it, in sha'Allah, in my coming series of religious comparison.


if I am right, it is from the God. if I am wrong, it is from myself.
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lukaxp Featured By Owner Edited Jul 29, 2014
Yet it is the those same muslims that forbid our Christian brothers to use the name Allah,even when their mother language is arabic.Not only that but they also do not allow us to build churches in Saudi Arabia.Yet the Christians allow
muslims to built their mosques in Rome,and to use the name Deo in Italy.The dubble standards with the muslims never end.I wish everything was as nice as your art wants us to believe.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014
First, Allah is the name of the God Creator of the world. everybody has the right to call his Creator Allah. in Islam, we believe the Christians, the Jews and the Muslims worship the same God. Arab Christians and Jews read their Bible in Arabic since time immemorial. it's unreasonable to ask them now to change the name of their God into something other than Allah. We Muslims are supposed to learn Islam from the prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him-. the prophet Mohammed dealt with Arab Christian and Jews but he never said anything against them calling their God Allah in Arabic.
My friend, you need to understand that not every behavior by a Muslim is an Islamic behavior (just like not every behavior by a Christian is a Christian behavior). there are some misguided Muslims who commit mistakes and crimes. many Muslim organizations claim to follow the Shari'ah. yet they do un-Islamic behaviors.

Forbidding building Churches in Saudi Arabia is not an Islamic teaching or law. it's a law made by the kings of Saudi Arabia. as far as I know, non-Muslims residing in an Islamic country are supposed to have the right to have their place of worship protected (by Islam). but there is difference between true Islam (taught by the last prophet of the God) and what we find today. we do have Muslim countries (Muslim majority countries). we do have some good Muslims. but we have no Islamic country (country ruled by true Islam)

Double standard is considered hypocrisy. Muslims are taught (in the Qur'an) that hypocrisy is an evil act. therefore, true Muslims are supposed to avoid such behaviors. sadly there are some Muslims whose voices are very loud, and unfortunately, they are not a good representation of Islam. those are the ones giving the bad image for the rest of us.
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lukaxp Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014
I would agree in some things,and i know what Quran says,but still you must be living in West,because here in East most muslims are not like you,they support the wahabbi movement in Saudi Arabia,and they are getting stronger in numbers every day ,among the muslims,they teach new converts the violent ways,and spread hatred against anyone that does not agree with them..My state used to have a muslim sufi minority but now most of them are salafi,supporter of the King and his mufti,they now only heed the Saudi ulema. They are what you would call munafics they are blind to what happens to Gaza and ISIS,but they would cut your throat if you are not covered.Alas all Saudi kings are the puppets of Great Britannia.I wish muslims were more like you,but again the closer to the Mecca they are, the muslims are getting more violent.The Western islam is different to the Eastern,believe me,if not in belief then in act..I know you will say ,,No Islam is the same everywhere,,but thats just not true.
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Shinjuchan Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Hmmm, I’m reluctant to add my thoughts. It’s been my experience that discussion of personal religion has this nasty habit of turning to anger. I hope you will not take it take way, but just allow me simply to share my understanding of it. It’s not so much the question if ‘Allah’ means ‘God’ (Or is translated as ‘God’ in Arabic) but whether or not the being that Mohammed spoke to was in fact the same God; that he was the God of Abraham, I AM. Many non-Islamic faiths believe that Mohammed was receiving instruction from a pretender; from Satan. This is my understanding of it.

Peace on you. You have a strong faith.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013
Peace be to you as well,

you are raising a serious and good question here. And I thank you for asking me about my religion and giving me an opportunity to provide my perspective based on my understanding of this matter. but before answering, we need to make sure of certain things:
- first, we hear a lot about Islam. but not all we hear is true. believing something from hearsay without checking the credible sources is unfair and unjust. we should always confirm information before believing them.
- second, a judge in the court is not a just judge unless they hear all parties. even the supposedly guilty party has right to be heard. you may hear bad things about Islam. but unless you hear what Muslims have to say in their defense, your judgment could be unfair and unjust.
- every claim has to be backed up with proof and evidence. everybody can make allegations. therefore, we need to check the proofs one provides. and the burden of proof lies on the one making the claim.
- when we don't know much about a certain subject, it is better and wiser to delay our judgment and refrain from forming an opinion and spreading it, which could have negative consequences.


that being said, let's return to the question you are raising. you said: Many non-Islamic faiths believe that Mohammed was receiving instruction from a pretender; from Satan.
this is a statement. and to be taken as fact, you need proof. faiths are represented by their scriptures and religious texts. When we talk about the Christian faith, for example, we are basically talking about what the Bible teaches.
I don't know if you read non-Islamic scriptures and really found that Mohammed was indeed receiving instructions from Satan in the text of these scriptures. But as far as I am aware, The Bible -the Christian scripture-, the Bhagavad Gita -the Hindu scripture-, the Tripitaka and Mahayana Sutras -Buddhist scriptures-... neither of these say that explicitly or implicitly Mohammed was receiving instructions from Satan. and I believe other scriptures as well do not say that.
If you have read a scripture that says that, please let me know. if not, then this claim is false.

If these scriptures did not say that Mohammed received instructions from Satan, then who said that?
My answer is simple: It is certain non-Muslims. and I believe you know the difference between "Non-Islamic beliefs" and "non-Muslims"
A non-Muslim is anybody who is not following Islam. he could be Christian, Jews, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Wicca...
Now if a certain somebody makes claims, they have to provide their evidence. the burden of the proof lies on the one making claims.
For example, we Muslims claim that the Qur'an comes from the God. we have certain Arguments we use as a proof. The one who claims the Qur'an comes from Satan, they are required to provide their proof. not us. when we Muslims see the proof, we will reply.


But just to give you a few hints as to why this claim is false, let me tell you that :

The main source of guidance for the Muslim is the Qur'an, what Muslims believe to be God's word. Did you know that In the Qur'an, the Muslims are instructed, before reading the Qur'an, to we say "I seek refuge With the God from Satan the outcast cursed one.".
Do you think Satan would inspire a book, and tell us "before you read my book, seek refuge with the God from me and curse me"? does it make sense?

The prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him- taught us that when we have a bad though, an evil inspiration, we curse Satan and seek refuge with the Almighty. do you think Satan would instruct Mohammed to teach such things?
I don't think so.

Let's reason. if Satan inspired a book, he would not vilify himself since his aim is for people to follow him. he would try to beautify his image (which was vilified in previous scriptures). or he would teach that Satan is non-existent. like this, people would be oblivious of the existence of their enemy.
Satan is very smart. very smart that he could plant an evil idea in the mind of many people. the idea that the divine word of God is Satan's work. But the Author of the Qur'an outsmarted Satan. he anticipated this allegation and, in the Qur'an itself, he provided the refutation of this claim:
the Almighty God said in the Qur'an:
يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ كُلُوا مِمَّا فِي الْأَرْضِ حَلَالًا طَيِّبًا وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا خُطُوَاتِ الشَّيْطَانِ ۚ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُّبِينٌ
O mankind, eat from whatever is on earth [that is] lawful and good and do not follow the footsteps of Satan, for he is to you an avowed enemy.
إِنَّمَا يَأْمُرُكُم بِالسُّوءِ وَالْفَحْشَاءِ وَأَن تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ مَا لَا تَعْلَمُونَ
He only orders you to evil and immorality and to say about Allah that of which ye have no knowledge.

translation of 2:168-169
Does this sound like the words of Satan? does Satan write a book and tell people "don't follow my steps. I am your enemy"?
Satan is mentioned in the Quran over 60 times. One may ask, what is the image of Satan we can get from reading the Qur'an -or at least, the passages mentioning Satan-?
Just go ahead and read the Qur'an, you will find Satan represented with Scandal, humiliation, arrogance, banishment and eternal curse. Satan is described in the Qur'an as the deadliest enemy of mankind. every mention of Satan demonstrates his enmity to man, his deception, and his ultimate destruction in the fire of hell. Do you really think Satan would write a book and paint this picture of himself in his book?
I don't think so.


Dear friend. In today’s world, the prophet Mohammed –peace be upon him- became a good subject to earn easy money. Many people -regardless of their knowledge and credibility- write books and make speeches to vilify the prophet. Many people make allegations, lies and they call him Anti-Christ, Devil, liar, madman and other disgusting names. It’s easy to make a best-seller in the western world by vilifying Islam and Mohammed. But one should wonder how credible are the information he gets from these sources. what should he believe and what should be reject. Before you make an opinion or judgment, as I mentioned earlier, you need to check the sources and hear all parties. For that, I invite you to read a little about the prophet Mohammed –peace be upon him-. In this page [link] you find titles of some famous biographies of the prophet. Try to have a look at some of them. Perhaps, they benefit you and allow you to see things you didn’t know before.


Now returning to the other question you raised: whether the God of the Qur'an is the same God of Abraham -peace be upon him-. In order to check this in an objective way, it is very important to get the attributes of the God in the Bible from the Christian sources and get the attributes of the God in the Qur'an from Islamic sources. and then compare them.
one thing you should keep in mind: getting the attributes of God in the Qur'an from non-Islamic sources is no better than getting the attributes of God in the Bible from non-Christian sources. getting your information from credible sources is very important.
You can try to make this comparison if you want. and after you do, please come again and tell me if you think the God of the Qur'an is different from the God of Abraham -peace be upon him-.

I hope this answers your questions.
Peace be to you
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Shinjuchan Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
’I thank you for asking me about my religion and giving me an opportunity to provide my perspective based on my understanding of this matter’

You’re certainly welcome first of all. Wow ...I didn’t except such a lengthy response from you in return. Your author’s comments stated that --from time to time-- you would get some Christians coming in to argue that Allah is not the God of their Bible. So my post was meant to offer one plausible idea/theory as to why these individuals (Christians, non-muslims, or otherwise) might be debating this with you. It’s not my own personal opinion that I pulled out of the air just for the purpose of providing you with a answer. I have, in fact, certainly heard it being said in my lifetime, here and there, the years.

Now can this belief be backed, as you asked, by any scripture? You raise a very good, serious question yourself. I share this ONLY because you inquired. I want to make sure I say that first so that no offense is given or taken. If your desire, as I’ve seen in your beautiful arts, is any testimony of your want for coexistence together, then we shall be kind also in how we express our differences. We learn from each other and why we believe what we do. Okay?

While no scripture exist that I am aware of that directly or specifically names the prophet Mohammed (Or anyone else for that matter) there is in fact scripture that does warn quite heavily against religions, teachings, and new doctrines based on ‘revelations’ brought by ‘angels’:

‘I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.’ ~ Galatians 1: 6-8

‘And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness’ ~ 2 Corinthians 11:14-15

‘But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.’ ~ 2 Peter 2-3

‘And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.’ ~ Revelation 20:10

Once more I’ve shared this only in education that we may better understand our thoughts. You share many verses from the Qur'an and I do in fact read them. I own a Qur'an in fact. (Which, btw, answers the other question you asked which I’ll answer in a moment) This is no attack on your faith. Have peace :)

I don't know if you read non-Islamic scriptures

Very much actually. Besides the Holy Bible I received in my mother’s passing (It’s a very old one that I love very much) I also, as I noted, own a Qur'an. I also enjoy reading other ancient and religious scripts such as Deuterocanonical and Apocrypha.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
I will take an objective logical approach in dealing with this issue:
While no scripture exist that I am aware of that directly or specifically names the prophet Mohammed (Or anyone else for that matter) there is in fact scripture that does warn quite heavily against religions, teachings, and new doctrines based on ‘revelations’ brought by ‘angels’:
Alright. so the Bible warns against false prophets. does this prove that every prophet is a false prophet? does it prove that Mohammed -peace be upon him- was a false prophet? I say no.
You say the Bible warns against revelations supposedly brought by angels. does this prove that every single revelation brought by an angel is a false revelation? does it prove that Mohammed's revelation was brought by a false angel (Satan)? I say no.

Why not? you may ask.
simply because the verses you quoted are general. it's like you saying "a prophet claiming to receive revelation from God through an Angel, it is possible that he is a false prophet"
possible doesn't mean certain.
It's like me saying "some trolls are going to have accounts in DeviantART"
does this mean anybody who has account in DeviantART is a troll? I don't think so.
like someone is possible to be a false prophet. it is also possible for him to be a real prophet. the possibility of having a false prophet does not negate the possibility of having a true prophet. we need a stronger objective and effective 'test' to filter the real from the false.

In scripture, there are 2 kinds of statements in general: explicit statements and implicit statements. explicit statements are clear and direct. they accept no interpretations. while implicit statements may accept different interpretations. implicit statements should be interpreted based on the explicit ones and not the opposite. this is how scripture is (should be) studied and understood.

In order to fully illustrate my point, let me give you an example -from the Bible and from the Qur'an-:
in Matthew 7:15-18 we read
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit."
Now these are supposed to be the words of Jesus -peace be upon him-. from the "Barnes' Notes on the Bible" of the above verse, it is said: "A false prophet is a teacher of incorrect doctrine, or one falsely and unjustly laying claims to divine inspiration."
Now let's reason. why would Jesus -peace be upon him- say the above quote? if there were certainly no more prophets after Jesus -peace be upon him-, wouldn't he be saying "don't worry. there are no more prophets. anybody claiming prophethood is a liar". it's simple and explicit.

Now look in the Qur'an:
مَّا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَا أَحَدٍ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلَٰكِن رَّسُولَ اللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ ۗ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمًا
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

translation of 33:40
look at this verse. did you know that Mohammed -peace be upon him- was mentioned by name only around 5 times in the whole Qur'an? (Jesus -peace be upon him- was mentioned 25 times. Moses -peace be upon him- over 100 times) But the author of the Qur'an made sure to make an explicit statement that accepts no interpretations. the above verse says explicitly that Mohammed -by name- was the last prophet of God. from the above verse, we Muslims say there is no prophet after Mohammed, real prophets or false prophets. none. he was the last one. full stop.

Now returning to the above Biblical verse, we see Jesus giving his disciples a criterion, a way to identify a false prophet from a true one. why? In my opinion, it is because there would be false ones coming after him. and also there would be a true one. if there was no true prophet coming after Jesus, he wouldn't bother giving his disciples a useless test.

As far as I am aware, In the Bible, there is nothing that explicitly says there will be no more prophets whatsoever. of course, some Christians may claim that. I say it is just their own interpretations of some implicit verses of the Bible. but interpretations vary. and unless based on explicit verses, they can't be taken as absolute truth.
of course, all what I am saying still doesn't prove that Mohammed -peace be upon him- was a real prophet. my point here is that the Bible doesn't explicitly discredit him personally. and it doesn't say there will be no real prophets after Jesus. it only warns from false ones. and indeed in history, from Jesus until today, there were many false prophets. and by applying the above criterion given by Jesus -peace be upon him-, we can discredit many of them. but not Mohammed -peace be upon him-.

if you want to test the prophethood of Mohammed -peace be upon him-, you need an objective 'prophethood test'. when a person comes and claims to be a prophet of the God, we pass him through the test and if he fails, he is no prophet. I discussed with a couple of Christians several months ago, and when we reached this point, they didn't have a prophethood test. all they had in mind was "anyone who contradicts the Bible is false". but this can't be considered an objective prophethood test. since there is always the possibility of the Bible being wrong. the prophethood test should not be the kind that "qualifies my religion and disqualifies the rest" because it won't be objective in that case.
but this will open another big gate that leads to a very long discussion, I believe. so I stop here.


Returning to our topic. the above verses you mentioned can't be used as a 'proof' that Mohammed -peace be upon him- got his revelation from Satan. as you saw from my last comment, I provided you with simple evidence from the Qur'an that disqualifies Satan as the author of the Qur'an.

I hope this was beneficial.

Peace be to you.
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Shinjuchan Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Text on a screen can be so misleading. Without a tone of voice it can be difficult ro know the emotion behind the text. I just don’t want to feel that you we’re or may be angry. Once more, as my previous post stated, your author’s comments stated that from time to time you would get some Christian groups coming in to argue that Allah is not the God of their Bible. My post was to offer a possible answer for that based on some of my own experiences. It is not based on my own opinion or otherwise. If I believed that then I probably wouldn’t own my own Qur'an. As you yourself has mention, this is not a test or challenge to qualify one religion verses another. That be the case, we could be writing back and forth all week and still come to no resolve in the end. Just as well, another different religion could say they’re correct and we both are wrong. I’m not here to do that.

God bless you my friend. May we have more opportunities to learn from each other. Peace :)
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
My friend. Since you wrote a statement which I consider false (that the prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him- took his instructions from Satan) I felt obliged to reply and present my perspective. It was not aimed to attack or defame you or your religion. I hope you didn't feel that. besides, many people come and read the comments. so the discussion could be beneficial for some of them...

I didn't feel offended by your question. you were being very polite and I respect you for that. you were different from those who came to debate and push their opinion. so I am not angry at all.

God bless you too. :D

Peace be to you.
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Shinjuchan Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
‘you were different from those who came to debate and push their opinion’</i>

‘A still, small voice.’

Which comes from a passage in 1 Kings 19, ‘And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.’ The message is a condemnation of zeal, a zeal exhibiting itself in fierce and terrible vengeances, and an exaltation and recommendation of that mild and gentle temper, which "beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things." To intimate, that God would do his work in his own time, not by might or power, but by his own spirit (Zechariah 4:6) which moves with a powerful, but yet with a sweet and gentle gale.

You might wonder why I’ve mentioned it. There is no righteousness in condemning our neighbor, our differences, through loud harsh words, wrath, and sword! If I am God’s servant, should I not also come to my brother (or my sister) with a still, small voice? Even the normal man covers his ears from trumpet blasts. Nothing good will ever come from anger. I’ve seen it over, over, and over. Anger points fingers and, sadly, often leads to wars and murder.The Word also commands that I ‘Shall not judge, lest you be judged’.

I was on my way out the door earlier when I answered you last that I didn’t get the opportunity to mention how curious it was that you offered Matthew 7 (figs & thistles) in your example. That was actually the first verse I had chose originally when I had set to give you some examples last night, but opted instead for another one.

Blessings! :)
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