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If you want to be fair... by Nayzak If you want to be fair... by Nayzak
Assalaamu alaikum [peace be to you],

Many non-Muslim point their fingers toward Muslims accusing Islam for the suppression of women, calling to liberate Muslim women, to free them from oppression and to save them from Muslim male domination, from Islamic Shari'ah and from Islam.

I invite every person, I invite every woman, every non-Muslim woman, to talk to a Muslim lady. I mean, let's not ask Barbara Walters about how Muslim women feel. Let's not ask Tom Brokaw how Muslim women feel. Let's not ask CNN, ABC, FOX, let's not ask the London Times or the Australian Times. Let's not ask Non-Muslims about how Muslim women feel. how they live. what are their principles. what are their challenges...


:bulletred: Be fair, Ask a Muslim Woman

If you want to be fair ask a Muslim woman. Ask my wife. Ask my mother. Ask my sister... you see, ask a Muslim woman who knows her religion, who has a relationship with her creator, who is stable in her society, understanding her responsibilities and rights, her relationship. ask her. And after that I think you should be fair and you don't need to ask someone else.
But the problem is no one really wants to ask Muslim women. In order to be be seen as a hero, all you need is to find a monster or a damsel in distress. and if you can't, you just create one.
Many Westerners want to take pictures of oppressed women in such-and-such Muslim country, and pictures of suppressed women in such-and-such Muslim country, and pictures of women over here and pictures of women over there. and put things out of proportions. Many people want to listen to what someone says about female circumcision as if Muslims got circumcised women by the tons. As if thousands, ten, twenty, thirty thousand, forty thousand women all over the world are being circumcised. Some crazy ideas even Stephen Spielberg can't imagine.


:bulletred: Let's Be fair again...

And let me give you a statistic that you should know about. If you take a quota, in deviantART for example, (or in school, in your city, in Any community where there are Muslims...) I'll tell you this, most Muslim woman in deviantART, for example, are students and will be college graduates or are college graduates and are very intelligent and very much socially endowed and within their family structure we find that women control the wealth more so than men.
now what does that say to you?
If anyone of you really wants to know how Muslim women feel, just find 10 random Muslim women here and ask them about how they feel.

It is true that some Muslim women are oppressed..
But now where you find women oppressed, women exploited, women mistreated among Muslim that's because those Muslims themselves are not representing the principles of the religion of Islam. And you know pretty well that in every religion you got black sheep. there is an Arabic proverb that says "don't throw rocks on people's houses when your house is made of glass". I guess you get the point.


:bulletred: The real damsels in distress

But then again, nobody can tell us that the 100,000 prostitutes that walk the street in the UK or the 25,000 prostitutes that walk the streets of the Netherlands that have licences to do so, and all these young naked little girls walking in Nudist Resorts in Australia or France with no clothes on, no one can tell us that they represent liberation.
There are 40 million prostitutes in the world. that's more than the population of Canada (with 34,826,566) and Australia (with 23,062,621) that's 4 times the population in Belgium (10,802,463) and 10 times the population in Lebanon (4,306,629)!
Prostitutes get as little as $1 (median price) in South Africa. if you want to get laid, just pay $1. you will get a cheap lady and AIDS as a bonus.
And did you know that murder rate for an American prostitute is 204 for every 100,000! which makes prostitution the most dangerous job in America. a Prostitute's job is even more dangerous than fisherman's (126 for every 100,000)!!!!
no one can tell us, that the 39 million abortions (over 1 million in the United States alone), murders, trafficking and exploitation that take place with these young women that it represents sophistication.
no one can tell us "that" represents liberation.
No one can tell us that a half naked woman sitting on a car or holding a chocolate bar, a half naked woman 'used' for selling everything, toothpaste, food, drinks... everything. No one can tell us that doesn't represents exploitation.

So let's put things in context.
let's talk about things correctly, and lets be fair. let's be objective.

Everyone has their idea of what liberation and freedom is. In this world, there are women who need liberation. But what you may consider liberation may be persecution and oppression for the Muslim woman. therefore, before you plan to play the hero who liberates the Muslim woman, try to be fair and ask her how she feels.


based on the answer of Sheikh Khalid Yasin in his lecture - What is True Success in Life: [link]
and Prostitution stats from [link]
Abortion stats from [link]


I hope this was beneficial.


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If I am right, it is from the God. If I am wrong, it is from myself.
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ashkinmor2 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014
I can't, if i ask her,  husband will kill her.
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zenlord22 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Personally a woman only represents liberation when she lives the life she want's and doesn't care what the criticism she faces say.
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EdenDragon Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
great description but I am curious WHY do SOME women get circumcised?  It is portrayed as by force at birth in my country.  So why and for what reason does it actually happen? And how often?
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ocarinageek Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Exactly! Get your info from the source!

Also, everything about this picture is awesome!
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miharukodachi Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The hijab is so pretty, I really love the anime feel you bring with your art and messages, too. 
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
NO. did you read the article above?
the ones who are unfair are those non-Muslims who talk for Muslim women without knowing what Muslim women want. in order to be fair, they should ask the Muslim women first.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014
you certainly didn't understand what I'm saying. I didn't say non-Muslim women aren't fair. this has NOTHING to do with women being fair or not. what I'm saying is THE NON-MUSLIMS who are JUDGING THE MUSLIM WOMEN are the ones who are NOT FAIR because THEY didn't even care to ASK the MUSLIM WOMEN.

I didn't say non-Muslims (in general) are not fair. and I didn't say the people of my religion are fair. you certainly DIDN'T read my article. next time, please READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT!
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014
I'm afraid you're unnecessarily complicating things, sister. :no:
lets summarize so that you (and everyone reading this discussion) can understand:
first you claimed:
"I am not a Muslim woman. So, you are basicly saying that I am an unfair human being?"
Strange, over 6800 people viewed this article, most of them are non-Muslims, yet you're the ONLY one who imagined that I'm saying non-Muslim women are unfair.
anyway, I replied:
"NO. did you read the article above?
the ones who are unfair are those non-Muslims who talk for Muslim women without knowing what Muslim women want. in order to be fair, they should ask the Muslim women first."

it's obvious that you didn't read the article. your first claim was false. yet instead of reading it in order to see what I wanted to say, you kept defending your first false claim by saying:
"There are unfair Muslim women too. The people of your religion isn't always fair and right."
and to that I replied:
"you certainly didn't understand what I'm saying. I didn't say non-Muslim women aren't fair. this has NOTHING to do with women being fair or not. what I'm saying is THE NON-MUSLIMS who are JUDGING THE MUSLIM WOMEN are the ones who are NOT FAIR because THEY didn't even care to ASK the MUSLIM WOMEN.
I didn't say non-Muslims (in general) are not fair. and I didn't say the people of my religion are fair. you certainly DIDN'T read my article. next time, please READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT!"


now you say:
"You should really calm down. You have no right to yell at a person for questioning what you are typing."
there is no yelling in my comment. I'm talking to you in the way that matches your attitude towards me.
maybe you don't know, but I do have the right to defend my opinion from your false statement. I'm afraid what you wrote reveals that you didn't read my article and assumed something wrong. I just corrected it and encouraged you to read before you comment. but it seems you're not among those who like to read.

"I used to like your art"
this is funny for someone whose very first comment in my page is a baseless allegation. you really think someone will believe this?

"but I see the way you reply to people. Rude and agressive."
when one doesn't agree with your statement, they are automatically rude and aggressive.

"That indirectly makes your art ugly."
ugly? if you want to see ugly art, just open your the gallery in your own page.


I'm afraid This discussion is going nowhere. I tried to be patient with you. but your way isn't how to engage in a civilized fruitful beneficial discussion. I'm ending this discussion here before it turns ugly and wastes both of our time.
my advice to you: next time, read what people write and try to understand it before you give the freedom to your fingers to type.

May the God almighty guide you and correct your thinking.
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naktahi Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
women are repressed EVERYWHERE. if muslim women are happy with their culture, they should be left in peace to live the way they choose to live. if they want to leave it, they should similarly be free to leave it. that's where true rights come in; when people are able and free to make life choices that are the most benefit them and their families.
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lexiejay Featured By Owner May 14, 2013
Her veil is so pretty!
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JDLuvaSQEE Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Beautiful and powerful!
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Pocky-Japan-Ai-epic Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm tired of all the arguing on this page!
"Prostitutes get as little as $1 (median price) in South Africa. if you want to get laid, just pay $1. you will get a cheap lady and AIDS as a bonus."
You can't get Aids from having an intercourse with someone.
That person needs to have AIDS too, that or you shared needles (I still don't get why people share needles?).

This article wouldn't get so much hate if you hadn't put "If you want to get laid, just pay $1. You will get a cheap lady and Aids as a bonus."
Really? A cheap lady? I know you may have not intended this, but how could a human being be 'cheap'?
We humans are not to be sold as slaves, and we can't be a certain price besides infinity.


Question: what if those naked ladies want to be naked? What about those women who are in poverty and have no idea what to do? I know everyone's idea of liberation is different, but you have no right to judge those women who actually don't have a choice (well they do, but unfortunately the hope can be lost).
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013
It seems you missed the whole point of my article.

I know you may have not intended this, but how could a human being be 'cheap'?
I believe When a human puts a price for their body, they become cheap. when a human puts a price for their honesty and truthfulness, they also become cheap. when a human puts a price on their opinion, they also become cheap. I believe there are many ways a human can make themselves cheap. but nobody can make you cheap if you don't make yourself so. this is my opinion.

Question: what if those naked ladies want to be naked?
They can be naked if they want. I never said they can't. But if they have right to be naked, then Muslim women also have right to cover up. one has to be fair. This is the point from my article.

What about those women who are in poverty and have no idea what to do?
In Islam, taking care of the needy is a responsibility of the community. of there are needy people starving, it's because the community is corrupted. Islam offers the solutions.
But I don't believe a woman's only choice to live is to commit sin and sell her body. I believe the God always gives us many alternatives. the people who don't want to try hard or those who only want the easy way are the ones who claim they had no choice.

I know everyone's idea of liberation is different, but you have no right to judge those women who actually don't have a choice (well they do, but unfortunately the hope can be lost).
I don't have right to judge. but I have all right to express my opinion.
And if non-Muslims have right to express their opinions on Islam and Muslim women, We Muslims also have right to express our opinion regarding non-Muslim women... or would you take that right from me?

I'm tired of all the arguing on this page!
You say you are tired of arguing. yet you also argue.
If you are tired of a page, you can just leave it. :D I know many of my articles are argumentative and controversial. and I believe freedom of opinion implies that everyone has right to have a different opinion. being open-minded means we respect each other's opinions even when we disagree....

Peace be to you.
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Pocky-Japan-Ai-epic Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the explanation.
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kidliquorice Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013  Hobbyist
As salamu alaikum!
I know right?! I am so fed up of non-muslim women speaking on my behalf! Stop shouting out that I'm oppressed because I cover. I think the most oppressive thing is when THEY refuse to let me speak for myself and think they have a right to speak for me. But maybe that's the intention of some of them.
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Mael309 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013
this is understandable, the west should not judge the lifestyle of this people. We claim that islam represses woman but our own culture sexualices them, making out of them no more than an object of lust.
Also your drawings are fantastic + watch
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MechaFanPR Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Student General Artist
That's a very good statement. Also, like the colors and cute design of the character. You make some really nice works.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
I am really tired of people -with empty profiles- coming here and claiming they are Muslims in order to give weight to their words. I am going to hide this comment. Please, if you want to criticize with a long paragraph, just write a reply in your own page and say there that you are a Muslim.

Peace be to you.
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zsalah90 Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
I don't use DA at all except to look at the work of people. My NAME is zsalah, if anything you should know that Salah is rather important in Islam. I think it's very rude that you discredit my belief in Allah just because you don't like the way I've disagreed with you.
StaghfirAllah. Furthermore, I was nothing but respectful to you, brother.
Do you need photo proof of my facebook, of me in Hijab, of my religious values?
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Nayzak Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
I don't need anything from you except peace.

When I see an attack coming from an empty profile, then I have no reason not to think you're a troll. I had a lot of trolls doing that to me.
I don't need any proof that you're a Muslim. if you didn't have the proof in your page prior to the time you commented here, then it's pointless to put it there now. if you don't use DeviantART at all, then I don't think that bothering me is your best start here.

You don't need to argue with me. if you have something to say, write it in your own profile.
All I can say to you is "peace" and may the God guide you and correct your thinking.
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zsalah90 Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
I'm not trying to argue with you, but I am pointing out that not everyone uses this site for the same purpose.

I don't have anything on my profile because I am not a photographer nor am I an artist. I simply browse around and look at what people create.

For example, your art pieces were some of my favorites.

I don't see why someone has to have their Islam on their DA page as justification for you.

If a person claims to be a Muslim, Islamically, you don't necessarily have the right to deny that. Only Allah knows.

A disagreement is not an attack. InshAllah you will see clarity in your incorrect line of thinking, fee amaan Allah.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
I'm not trying to argue with you, but I am pointing out that not everyone uses this site for the same purpose.
the way I see it, you ARE arguing.

"I don't see why someone has to have their Islam on their DA page as justification for you."
that's because we are in internet. and for me, coming to attack with an empty profile is not acceptable. There are some islamophobes who claim to be Muslims in order to give weight to their false statements about Islam. how can I know you're not one of them?
By checking your profile and seeing if there is proof.
for me, if you have nothing Islamic in your profile, then please don't bother telling me you are a Muslim, especially after an attack.

If a person claims to be a Muslim, Islamically, you don't necessarily have the right to deny that. Only Allah knows.
I didn't say you are not a Muslim. I just stated the fact that you have nothing that proves you are a Muslim in your profile. which means telling me you're a Muslim doesn't add anything to whatever you said earlier.
and I asked you to write whatever you have to say in your own page. which means I have no interest to read what you have to say in my page. I do have that right.

Could we please stop this now. I'm not interested to argue with you. and this discussion is going nowhere.

May the God guide you and correct your thinking.

wassalaamu alaikum
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
Well, I am afraid I am NOT going to revise the text.
I do not intend to shame prostitutes. they shame themselves by their own shameful deeds. as for abortion, it is a disgusting crime. I only stated facts.
This is my final opinion and I am not gonna budge.

you may disagree. and you are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.

peace.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
sorry for the bold text. I made a mistake in the code.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
I remind you that what I wrote above about prostitution are facts I got from non-Muslim websites. you can check them if you want. but you can't claim that Muslims fabricated them.
I also noticed that you are the only one with this opinion of yours. there are many non-Muslims commenting here and no one made the same remark. which makes what you say a 'mere personal opinion' not even coming from religious teachings. for me, a religious teaching has higher weight since it can be justified from scripture. while personal opinions are mere opinions.

You call these women "cheap." You cannot put a price on humans.
I do not put a price on humans. but everyone can degrade themselves by putting a price on themselves. that's what prostitutes do. I didn't call them cheap. they make themselves cheap.

Nevermind that they have sinned,
not minding sin is what degraded humankind. we Muslims are commanded to call people to goodness and call them to refrain from evil and sin.

they are PEOPLE who have value equal to YOU AND ME.
I never said the value of these people, as humans, is less than mine. but their deeds are certainly bad. and word of truth has to be said.

They aren't lower than you.
I never said they are lower than me.

many of them aren't free. Many of these women are victims.
How about you tell this to those who want to free Muslim women.
Free your own women first and then talk about others.

AND you reinforce negative stereotypes about AIDS.
then how about you reinforce facts about AIDS in your own page? just go ahead and tell us the rate of AIDS in South African prostitutes.

I can sense that what you typed came from a place of ignorance and anger, NOT from love or spirituality...
I don't need you to come here and call me ignorant simply because I do not share your preferences. Similarly I see you ignorant by defending corruption and sin.
Know that pleasing people is NOT one of my aims and it will never be. I am not gonna compromise my religion and twist God's commandments simply to please a certain somebody with a questioned morality.
You have your way of life which appears to condone prostitution. that's your right, your opinion and you are entitled to it. I do respect your opinion which I do not share in the least bit but I do not try to force mine on you. But when you come to my page and attempt to make me view prostitution the way you do, here I am afraid you are crossing the red line and I do not like people judging me in my page based on their personal morality.

It appears we have different opinions and different moralities. and I doubt one of us is gonna convince the other. to you be your way, to me be mine. I prefer to end this discussion here peacefully. you already made your point clear so there is no need to continue. thanks.

May the God guide you and correct your thinking.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
You know, the God stated in the Qur'an that non-believers will never accept Muslims until Muslims change and follow the non-believing ways. and I can see that in your behavior here. I don't need your approval to express my opinions. and I certainly don't need friends with whom I have to compromise my religion.

I also do not tolerate you putting your words in my mouth. earlier, you said "They aren't lower than you." and I replied "I never said they are lower than me."
now you coming again and claim that I "feel about people. That sinning makes them cheap and sub-human." is just a dishonest way to twist my words and lie about me. I never said that sinning makes people cheap or sub-human. you are the one who wants to believe I said that. you said: You call these women "cheap." You cannot put a price on humans. and I replied I do not put a price on humans. but everyone can degrade themselves by putting a price on themselves. that's what prostitutes do. I didn't call them cheap. they make themselves cheap.
so read when people reply to your comments and don't just throw accusations like that.

I hope that you mature out of this way of thinking
if for you, maturing means to think in your corrupted way, then no, thanks. I don't need to mature like you.

I consider you twisting my words a very disrespectful behavior from your side. I didn't expect it from you. and this disqualifies you to have the right to spread your opinions in my page. All your comments in this page will be hidden. and I appreciate you respect yourself and leave in peace. I do not like the way this discussion is going and I already closed discussion with you. so 'peace be to you'

may the God guide you and correct your thinking
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
first, I am not pointing fingers. I am stating facts. facts that can be checked and verified. of course, some of these facts may not please everybody. but that's beyond the point.

I am not judging people. I am not the one who decreed that prostitution is a sin. God did. he did in the Torah and Gospel. and he did in the Qur'an. there is not a single sane parent who would want their daughter to become a prostitute. To my knowledge, there is not a single religion in the whole world that accepts prostitution. it is the non-religious seculars who try to propagate prostitution as a way of life. That is not from the God almighty. it's from the corrupted human mind. and I, as a Muslim, have the duty to stand firmly against corruption.

If you want to propagate opposite ideas and opinions, please do that in your own page.

peace be to you
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
just as ironic is that NON-Muslim 'MEN' and NON-Muslim 'WOMEN' keep repeating how Muslim women are repressed when they have never been one. :iconhurrhurrplz:
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
sorry to break this to u but there are non-happy muslims
I know that. when Islam is wrongly practiced or just absent, people persecute and oppress each other, and that's how we get unhappy people.

so try to be a bit open minded
this has nothing to do with open-mindedness or close-mindedness. I am not naive to believe everybody. especially those with empty profile.

and no i'm not going to explain myself to u
I didn't ask you to explain anything to me. :D

i told u the truth
If you want to share your truth, by all means, write it IN YOUR OWN PAGE.

May Allah guide you and correct your thinking.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
May Allah guide you and correct your thinking.
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notepaddoodler Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
Super good advice! <3 And what a cute drawing! It reminds me of a lolita fashion-loving hijabi I know, with all those ribbons and hijab. <3
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Bellfir Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
People can be naked if they want. Liberation means the freedom to pursue one's healthy pursuits freely.

If I want to run around naked, why can't I?

Adam and Eve did!
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
I do not believe Adam and Eve ran around naked.
but if it makes you happy to do so, by all means, do it.
but if you try to run around naked in my house, then I am going to censor you.
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EpicSpeedy Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually,there was no sin when Adam and Eve where around, and if you notice, when their eyes were opened, they realized their nakedness. Here's an exact word-for=word quote of the King James 1611 Bible Genesis 3:7; "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons." We share the fist five books in our Bibles, so i know this is in your Bible (Sorry I don't know how to spell it). This means they were naked, but they didn't know it was a sin. HOWEVER, I do NOT agree with this person's comment. Yes Adam and Eve were naked, but then when they ate of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, they were ashamed. Not only THAT but (according to the Christian Bible) we will receive robes of white in Heaven, and the sinners? When they are tried, they will be STARK NAKED because they do not have the cover of Christ. So now God uses it as a mark of shame, meaning going streaking bears the same shame of shouting "Unclean, unclean!" as a Leper.You have a good day Nayzak, and may my God, and your God bless you.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
We share the fist five books in our Bibles, so i know this is in your Bible
Well, I'm pretty sure you mistook me for somebody else. I don't share the first five books with your Bible simply because I'm not a Christian. I'm a Muslim. and we Muslims follow the Final testament called the Qur'an. the first five books of the OT are not present in the Qur'an.

"This means they were naked, but they didn't know it was a sin."
Well, this is the understanding we get from the Biblical tale.

"... and the sinners? When they are tried, they will be STARK NAKED because they do not have the cover of Christ."
Well, this is debatable. but I don't think it's the right place/time for that. therefore, I'll just leave it at that and say "to you be your belief, to me be mine" :D

peace be with you
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EpicSpeedy Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, I thought we shared the first 5 books. You also stated you did not believe that Adam and Eve were naked, but in your reply, you said that that is what we take from the Bible tale, so now I'm confused. And i only brought up MY religion to help you fight off this asshole. I wasn't trying to spit fire at you, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. May my God, and your God bless you!
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