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Does God exist? by Nayzak Does God exist? by Nayzak
Assalaamu alaikum [peace be to you],

This article is part of a series of articles about Allah, the God:
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WARNING:
1- this one is a little long. but I didn't want to divide it into 2 because it goes as a whole. so don't complain to me that it's long. if you can't read it all at once, read it little by little. :D
2- You don't need to write a long wall of text to explain how you disagree with me. this article is not an open debate. if you want to debate God's existence, there are many forums out there for that purpose. if the points mentioned here are not "enough" to convince you or at least make you ponder, feel free to visit the websites at the bottom of this article and read more.


Here are some Questions I'd like to ask, just to keep you thinking...
where did we come from?
how did we get here?
what's the purpose of life?
what would be the logic behind it all?
...
these questions and many others are going to be answered, in sha'Allah [God willing], in this and the next few articles.

:bulletgreen:SOME COMMON GROUND
First, let's agree about some definitions:
:bulletred: Proof: Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement
:bulletred: Evidence: The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
:bulletred: Fact: A thing that is indisputably the case. when much evidence is provided regarding something, we can say it's a fact.

When I say "proof of God's existence", if you are thinking of a proof where you can see the God himself, touch him, or take him to laboratory for experiments, then you won't get it. The God almighty is greater than us. we can't see him. but we can certainly see his signatures. Convincing you that God exists is really not my purpose. All I am interested in is providing evidences based on facts and logic and then allow the individual to decide for themselves what they would like to believe.
First, we must agree there are certain things that every human being agrees about. These are what we call “common sense”. Different People may disagree about morality (What’s right and what’s wrong). but people don’t usually disagree about common sense.
Examples of some common sense statements are:
- “the shortest path between two points is the straight line between them”. All of you agree. Right?
- We also have “part of something is less than the whole”.
- “you don’t get something coming from nothing”
So I am just going to use common sense and things that people can check and think about.

:bulletgreen:Look around you and within yourself...
Now Let’s take our universe as an example: We live on Earth and we know that it’s just a tiny planet in a vast Solar System. And our Solar System is just one member of a vast Milky Way galaxy with 200 to 400 billion stars. But how many galaxies are there in the entire Universe? This is a difficult number to know for certain, since we can only see a fraction of the Universe, even with our most powerful instruments. The most current estimates guess that there are more than 200 billion galaxies in the Universe! With our limited means, Recent measurements reveal that the Universe is no less than 150 billion lightyears in diameter.
1 lightyear = 9.4605284 × 1015 meters
And all these galaxies, planets and stars, all of them form an organized system. Life on Earth itself is a perfectly organized system.

if you acknowledge that there is a system, then there must be a source for this system. Based on the causality law of Thermodynamics (the law of cause and effect) all events have causes. If something exists, something must have caused it to exists. things do not come about in organized fashion simply by random chance.
Let’s not go too far. Let’s look at our own body. And consider these medical facts:
- There are 2.5 trillion of red blood cells in your body at any moment. About 2.5 million new ones need to be produced every second (2.5 million ones die every second).
Each one of these 2.5 trillion of red blood cells takes 20 seconds to circle the whole body and works non-stop for 120 days!
In 24 hours, the blood in the body travels a total of 12,000 miles - that's four times the width of North America.
Your body has about 5.6 liters of blood which circulates through the body three times every minute.
- When we touch something, we send a message to our brain at 124 Mile/hour
- In one square inch of our hand we have nine feet of blood vessels, 600 pain sensors, 9000 nerve endings, 36 heat sensors and 75 pressure sensors.
- The DNA helix measures 1/80,000,000 of an inch wide.
- 25 million new body cells are being produced each second.
- Our eyes can distinguish up to one million color surfaces and take in more information than the largest telescope known to man!
Every hour, the human eye can process 36,000 bits of information!
Masha'Allah!

now you have to agree with me that this is an incredible system. A system that’s very detailed that people can’t fully comprehend.

:bulletgreen:Where did everything come from?
One of the very important questions that we may ask is:
"where did everything come from?"
There are two options for a cause of this universe:
a- a non intelligent cause: Which means, everything came randomly by chance.
b- an intelligent cause: which means something very intelligent caused this universe to come into existence.

let's consider this example:
if you drop a drinking glass with some ice in it on the floor, it will break into many different parts. The cause of this incident is a non intelligent random cause. if you take another glass and drop it in the same way, it will also break into many random pieces of glass. if you repeat this experiment a million times, you will never find your glass with ice in it break and form little small drinking glasses with ice in them. Why? Because drinking glasses with water in them is not something that comes about randomly. Glasses are manufactured in the factory and the ice needs a refrigerator to be formed and the water needs to come from somewhere. so random non-intelligent cause can’t make us small glasses with ice. If it can’t make drinking glasses, it certainly can’t make things that are more complicated than drinking glasses (such as a mobile phone, a house, a computer…)

Another example is if you consider what might happen if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; it took parts of the different cars and shaped them and reshaped them again and again. Would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and air conditioner and the most advanced car safety options?
Naturally not.

Let’s use simple logic. When something is right in front of our eyes it is difficult to deny it, right? Asking rhetorical questions can be very helpful in presenting our case. Begin by asking the question; "Can you prove you exist?" Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine what you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things He has created to know there is no doubt of His existence.

:bulletgreen:Random chance or Intelligent Design:
We see around us a world so complex that it’s impossible for it to come into existence “just by itself” and then work in a very perfect order. Our universe has an incredible amount of order to it. The cause of such universe “must” be an intelligent cause. It must be an incredible designer. It can’t be random chance or accident. Because chance doesn’t produce complicated results and accident doesn’t create an organized system.

Of course, as soon as we say this, those Atheists who would like to deny the existence of any kind of creator and many of those who would like to promote the so called theory of evolution. some of those folks would be against the idea of intelligent design.

But stop for a while... And think… Think...

If you walked in the desert and saw a mobile phone there, with full credit and good network signal, would you say, “Isn't it funny how Mobile phones grow in this desert by random chance?”
No, you would “think” that some manufacturer made the phone, somebody bought it, walked there not long before you and dropped it. This is common sense.
But it’s a great miracle that some people see a world full of more complexity and order than every man-made structure put together and they assume that it came by mere chance and no intelligent designer created it. A single strand of DNA has more information on it then the whole Encyclopedia Britannica. You can't even explain it.
Have you ever seen any design without a designer? For example, a beautiful house without a skillful architect who designed it, a beautiful painting without a talented artist who painted it… well yeah, we see such things in fairy tales. But in real life, we all know that things don’t come about without a cause. you don’t get something coming from nothing. It’s common sense

here, we are talking about Intelligent design. so we need to define these two things:
a- Intelligence is The ability to have and apply knowledge and skills.
b- Design is the Purpose, planning, or intention that exists or is thought to exist behind something.
these two can't be floating in the void just like that and made the universe just like that. Anyone with a little common sense would agree that when we talk about intelligence, we talk about an intelligent being. and when we talk about an organized design, we talk about a designer.
This intelligent designer of the universe is what we call The God. in the Arabic language, one word for this is "Allah".

There have always been people who believed in the existence of God and there have always been those who have denied in His existence. We must realize there are those who will never believe no matter how much proof or evidence we produce. The reason is some people don't want to believe in a Creator or Sustainer. They would not like to consider one day they will have to answer for their actions and for their refusal to acknowledge their Benefactor to whom they owe their very existence.

:bulletgreen:An invitation to find the God
There is nothing better we can use to find the God than to follow the hints he provided in his own words: The holy Qur'an. Almighty Allah, the God, doesn’t ask for blind faith. he doesn't need people who follow without conviction. that's why Islam provides proof and only after that, it requires faith. it uses a very logical and scientific approach to deal with any subject. In many verses in the holy Qur’an, The God gives hints for man to find and recognize him. He is directing our attention to many things around us. He asks us to ponder and think. For example, he said:
وَفِي الْأَرْضِ آيَاتٌ لِّلْمُوقِنِينَ
"And on the earth are signs for those of assured Faith,
وَفِي أَنفُسِكُمْ ۚ أَفَلَا تُبْصِرُونَ
And also in your ownselves. Will you not then see?"

translation of verses 51:20-21
So the first step to know the God is to look around and study our world and ourselves…


if you want to read more about the God, I invite you to have a look at these websites:
for more reading about Allah, please visit:
:bulletred:GodAllah.com
:bulletred:ScienceIslam.com
:bulletred:Knowing Allah


Now that we know there is a God who created this universe.
The next question would be "Among all gods that people of different faiths worship, how to know and recognize the one God who truly deserves all worship?"
that will be for the next article, in sha'Allah...

To be continued in...



I hope that was beneficial


You may or may not like/agree with all what's said here. but that's no problem. I believe in what's called "freedom of belief". everyone is free to believe what they want. and no one has right to force his beliefs on others. what I am doing here is simply presenting facts and putting things together in order to reach conclusions. if you don't like my approach or you don't like the way this subject is presented, feel free to write your own article in your own page and express your opinions in the subject. :D


Medical information are taken from [link]
Universe information taken from [link] and [link]


Wassalaamu alaikum


If I am right, it's from the God. if wrong, it's from myself...
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MandiPope Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Brother, a wise man once told me, "I can show you God, would you like to see?"  I said yes.  He smiled, inhaled deeply, smiled, and said, "ah!  There He is!"

I wanted to share that story with you, it brought me such joy to hear.  I hope this story finds you in wonderful health and happiness, and may Peace be with you always!

Sister Mandi
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Rastifan Featured By Owner Edited Dec 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Yea this seems so.... plausible. Muslims have the same problems as Christians. You tend to go brain dead over your scripture.
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Algahiem3 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
You're a very good artist, but how can you be certain if Allah (or any other deity) is the one true God? And if there was any solid proof of Allah existing, why you you waste time worshipping him. If God or in your case, Allah is as vast as the universe itself, why would he pay any attention to you, me or any other creature this speck that we call Planet Earth? Let me put it another way, would pay any attention the needs of amoebas? IMHO, an all powerful god who spends all his time energy on a single planet is like a person who spends his time studying nurturing a speck of dusk. It just doesn't make sense to me
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
You're raising some interesting questions, my friend.

"but how can you be certain if Allah (or any other deity) is the one true God?"
I can't possibly answer this big question with just one sentence or a short paragraph. but I tell you that The God almighty provides evidences, in his divine book: the Qur'an, to refute all other deities. if you are interested, please consider reading the Qur'an.

"And if there was any solid proof of Allah existing, why you you waste time worshipping him."
That's because the God almighty commanded us to worship him.
just to make sure you understand what "worship" means in Islam, please have read the following article:
 Welcome to know Islam by Nayzak
"If God or in your case, Allah is as vast as the universe itself, why would he pay any attention to you, me or any other creature this speck that we call Planet Earth?"
I never said "the God is as vast as the universe". the God is unlike anything he created. so we can't compare him like we compare 2 objects or creatures.
the God almighty pays attention to us simply because he's caring and loving. if he were to create us and leave us alone, that would have meant he's uncaring, right?
now to ask the God almighty "why do you care?" is a little unreasonable. the God cares because caring is one of his divine attributes. he forgives because forgiveness is one of his divine attributes. he's just because justice is one of his divine attributes. that's his nature.
in the Qur'an, the God almighty taught us over 99 attributes from which we can know him. these attributes are called the "beautiful names of the God". they are all in harmony with each other and never contradict one another.

"Let me put it another way, would pay any attention the needs of amoebas? IMHO, an all powerful god who spends all his time energy on a single planet is like a person who spends his time studying nurturing a speck of dusk. It just doesn't make sense to me"
We Muslims never claimed the God spends all his time energy on a single planet. so please correct your facts.


Without correct knowledge about the God almighty, one may make assumptions and may find his assumptions nonsensical or illogical. therefore he finds it hard to believe in such a god. I'm afraid this is not the correct way to learn about the God almighty. we have no means to study the God except through the divine scripture revealed by him. therefore, I advise you to read scripture and try to learn about the God of that scripture. after you have enough knowledge you can argue or discuss details.
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methowwolf Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm a Roman Catholic and I really like this post. Your art style is adorable.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm a Christian and I approve of this post
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014
One for all and all for one. :D
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed

May God bless :)
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014
I don't like to see people writing long articles in my page. this is not a forum. this page is for me to write articles, not for every Tom, Dick and Harry to write.

I did write:
"if you don't like my approach or you don't like the way this subject is presented, feel free to write your own article in your own page and express your opinions in the subject."

I don't debate, so go write your disagreement in your own page. your long article here is to be hidden.
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greenbank Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014

Sorry you thought my reply was long. You are of course free to hide my comments if you don't like them.


However, what I said was not "opinion" but fact; the errors you made were actual errors, not my disagreement with your opinions and assumptions.


I didn't intend to engage in dialogue; what I wanted to do was (a) point out some of the errors in your original piece, and (b) point out where you might go in order to correct them. It is entirely up to you whether you take up this information or not.

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Nayzak Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014
"However, what I said was not "opinion" but fact; the errors you made were actual errors, not my disagreement with your opinions and assumptions."
you may call it fact. but I see it as an opinion.
as far as I know, I didn't make errors in the above article. and if I did, then you have a way to prove me wrong: by replying to my article in a scholarly article of your own you write in your own page. you see, it's very easy to disagree. and it's very easy to write disagreement (even nonsensical) on other people's pages. but when it comes to writing something for the world to see on ones own page, many people don't dare. I never said I'm not willing to hear the opposite opinion. but I have no obligation to read a long one in my own page.

"I didn't intend to engage in dialogue; what I wanted to do was (a) point out some of the errors in your original piece, and (b) point out where you might go in order to correct them. It is entirely up to you whether you take up this information or not."
engaging in dialog is fine. it's debates that I'm not interested in. you made your comment look like you were looking for a debate. unfortunately debates take much time and, from my own experience, most of them do not end well. I'm not here to fight or prove myself right and everybody wrong. I'm here to share what I believe is right. everyone is free to agree or disagree.
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MrEpicJustice Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014
Alright lets assume that these points are all valid... how do they prove that it is Allah that is the god in question?

Also why do Theists of all faiths assume Evolution disproves there religions? Evolution has nothing to say about the creation of the universe, or gods, or faiths - or in fact even how life was created, Evolution on explains how life diversifies through natural selection over successive generations to adapt to it's surroundings, which can be observant in taxonomy.

Also your comparing a Dead and non living system that doesn't reproduce ( ie a Call phone) to a living organism, that changes and has offspring that attain new characteristics, ergo are open to gradual changes over successive generations. :)

or in a TL;DR fashion

Science dose not disprove Gods, it has nothing to say about Gods - because Gods by there definition are untestable and unobservant, ergo outside Science's competence.

( I am NOT a scientist, or even a person that graduated college, so it is possible I butchered more than a few things in these criminally simplified explanations.)
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piogd Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013
Really? Where?
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013
is on his Throne.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014
your IQ still didn't reach the adequate level to make sense of adults speech.
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MrEpicJustice Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014
Tsk tsk, you shouldn't silence dissenting opinions :< ( even if you don't think there very inteligent)
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014
I do in my page whatever I wish.
and you shouldn't try to dictate to me what I should or shouldn't do.
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HappyHumanist Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
Wow you are one of the most scientifically ignorant person i have ever seen, no wonder why you normally disable comment and refuse to engage in debates.

Your example of the universe only refutes the existence of god, with estimated to have over 32 septillion planets with the vast majority unable to have life on them it is really not that big of a stretch to assume that the perfect organized system (which isn't really perfect at all with all the natural disasters) of earth was simply by chance. 
Most planets are unstable, less than 3% of a gas cloud forms a star, literally 99,999999% of the universe will kill life INSTANTLY, the andromeda galaxy will in a billion years destroy our galaxy, the universe will very likely stop expanding and go back into a reverse state known as the big crunch where the entire universe will be devoured and that's ofcourse if we'd even be there to see it before the sun supernova's and murders all life on earth. And even earth itself is incredibly poorly designed. Just look at floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, lightning strikes, volcanos, earthquakes, diseases, extinction, cataclysms, climate shifts, killer astroids and 99% of ALL species who EVER lived is extinct.
I don't know about you but if you actually use this as evidence for your so called god then your god is easily the worst designer i have ever seen, no intelligent benevolent being would create a system where almost everything will literally kill you instantly.

*If something exists, something must have caused it to exists*
This is true, but you seem to forget that there is a massive difference between creatio ex nihilo (causation through nothing) and creatio ex materia (creation through a rearrangement of matter and energy) so you're just making a false equivocation here and therefor your argument fails.

Now you're simply saying. (look at how complex the body is, surely a perfect benevolent god must've made it) ofcourse not only are you dismissing that our bodies are filled with diseases and imperfections a god would never make you are also forgetting the fact that we evolved this way through natural selection which is an unguided process.
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HappyHumanist Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013

*There are two options for a cause of this universe:
a- a non intelligent cause: Which means, everything came randomly by chance.
b- an intelligent cause: which means something very intelligent caused this universe to come into existence* 


And once again false, you have created a false dichotomy, not every cause that is non-intelligent is random, in fact it's most of the time the exact opposite, natural processes are generally based on algorithms like natural selection.

Then you use terrible anologies, you are comparing artificial creations to natural creations such as comparing a plane to an eye, but that's not how natural selection works, a plane cannot form extra parts by itself and rearrange it's matter, atoms can (nuclear fusion) DNA can (reproduction) and crystalized snow can (natural processes through weather) if you want to scientifically prove god then stop trying to use poor rhetoric.

*We see around us a world so complex that it’s impossible for it to come into existence “just by itself” and then work in a very perfect order. Our universe has an incredible amount of order to it. The cause of such universe “must” be an intelligent cause*


Not exactly, first of all i proved that the universe is far from perfect and second of all complexity does not require an intelligent cause, it requires an algorithmic process based on natural processes (which ARE actually scientifically proven)
Again you're comparing two completely different things, a cellphone is not a natural object, it was not made through natural processes like nuclear fusion, it does not have genes. You literally don't know anything about science do you?

So all in all you have not scientifically or rationally proven god, you're a liar, an irrational con-artist trying to shove propaganda on this site. Study biology or physics before you even attempt to talk about any of this and if you have any shred of dignity then i dare you to refute my points
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Abbx901 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm just a fan of debate and picking the less-popular side, so here goes something:

1. Islam might not even go against evolution, though it's an idea universally unaccepted. There's a verse in the Quran that says that all life came from water, listing it down in the exact order or something. Sounds rather vague-ish, but then again, it's not a science text-book.

2. The universe isn't imperfect.

i. There are certain benefits to these 'natural disasters' e.g. lava brings up fertile soil to the ground. Hurricanes distribute rain. Architecture can be made to withstand disasters. Japan receives majority of its rain from typhoons. The Hurricane Camille was a blessing in disguise as it spurred redevelopment. This increased local property values. If you think about it, this is pretty impressive.

ii. The human mind is flawed itself, but for a reason. It is to actively test you by making you act against an innate evil, e.g. greed or sloth. Likewise, the world itself is flawed. For a reason. To encourage vigilance, knowledge, and so on... Also it stops you from being stupid e.g. jumping into a tub of ice naked. Innate flaws -> moral sharpness. Wordly flaws -> wordly sharpness. A wordly sharpness that might benefit that same world.

3. Sometimes, I think, what are the things that aren't explained by science, but just are? E.g. the procession of time. We could very easily have time that passes through so quickly that the sun would have risen and set in the blink of an eye or something. Some things are pretty inexplicable. There could also have been one fruit that provided all the nourishment needed, but instead there are billions of species of not only plants, but animals. Aesthetic value. Inscribed in the world itself. There's stuff that is conveniently and beneficially present, however it didn't spring out of any 'need' as evolution says.

4. You insulted another person because you disagreed with him. That was annoying, and made you look like a pompous dickhead.

5. Nice arguments, in any case.
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CoolLittleDude Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2014
I guess he doesn't have a shred of dignity, anyway nice argument. I've gotten into a debate similar to this only it's was about the morality and logic of submitting to an all powerful being that hasn't appeared to humans in over 2000 years.
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LadyFemmeFatale Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013
I hope the science can arguments that God is a male, so all human males can enjoy this news and exterminate all the useless women.

P.s it's very clear that "God" is never called with female names: Mother, Goddess, Mistress and similar. 
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013
You are wrong. the God is GENDERLESS. he is neither male nor female. and no science can arguments that God is male. that's nonsense.
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iCandyCorn Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
agree
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DreamLandWarrior Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Besides my cousins, you are the first person to have ever said that!
:iconepichighfiveplz: Hurray for genderless God! 
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LiverofReanhay Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
I have yet to find a logical argument as to their being no god, or as to there being a god, one hasn't deducted the logical alternatives to the claim that their is one.
Actually you can't scientifically prove or disprove the existence of god.(such science hasn't been invented yet I suppose)
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
"one hasn't deducted the logical alternatives to the claim that their is one."
you failing to find something doesn't everybody else failed.

"Actually you can't scientifically prove or disprove the existence of god.(such science hasn't been invented yet I suppose)"
Please talk about yourself. and don't attribute your failure to me. I proved God's existence scientifically and logically and rationally. and that's why I believe it him. so if you couldn't do that, it doesn't mean nobody could. it only means your lacking something and you need to search more.
the science you claim hasn't been invented yet is already there. it's called common sense.

peace
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LiverofReanhay Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
I gave a detailed response,–· from memory·–·there is no reason it shouldn't be satisfactory.
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
the question isn't whether it's satisfactory or not. your "detailed" response doesn't (and can't) prove there is no God.
so I don't know what you're trying to prove here.
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Red-Jirachi-2 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013
How can you prove or disprove God exists when His presence causes you to EXPLODE
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013
Did you see me exploding?

your question makes no sense since God's presence DOES NOT cause me to explode.

peace.
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Red-Jirachi-2 Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013
It's a Biblical reference. Anyone who sees God's face will die from the sheer power of Him. God is meant to look incomprehensible to mortals, like a benevolent Yog-Sothoth
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013
Well, I don't believe in the Bible. I see it pointless to ask me a question basing on what Biblical followers believe.

In Islam, we do believe no human saw (can see) God's face. simply because he created us in earthly bodies with physical limitations. but we do believe that in the hereafter, we will be resurrected in a different body which may have the ability to see the God.
but not being able to see God's face doesn't mean we reject his existence. we believe in the God because of the tremendous signs (that point to him) which he created all around us.

peace
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Red-Jirachi-2 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013
That's what I mean by the Yog-Sothoth comparison: God is outside space and time, and thus it's impossible to describe how He looks. A lot of the time that causes the human mind to go insane
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013
yes. that's why it's pointless for us humans to try and imagine how the God is. besides, what we imagine may not be the truth: the God is not who we want him to be. he is who he is.
so that the God doesn't give us much trouble imagining him, and so that we won't go astray by imagining him in the wrong way, he sent prophets and messengers to us with scripture that defines clearly what God is and what he is not. so, for us Muslims, we return to the divine scripture when we want to know God's attributes.
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ssjdah Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013
Here is little tip Bro :
Try NOT  to use the intelligent design argument in proving God's existence
Cheeers :iconbigsmileplz: 
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TheBrilliantFool Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013  Hobbyist
Nicely done. It's well set out, even if I don't agree with some of the logic.

I'm simply curious, are you 100% convinced that Allah and his teachings are factually, objectively true? Do you think it possible that perhaps another religion may be correct, or that there is no God? If you can ask that others consider that they may be incorrect, surely you should do so too?

Also, do you believe that faith plays no part in your belief? Had you been raised agnostic say (if you weren't), would you likely still have found Islam to be objectively factual?
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Outlawcarl Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013
Why couldn't of God made us by evolution?
I kept rewriting this so as not to rant, i just have to ask why god diced to make chimpanzees 96% in his image.
Speaking of image the girls good but man i love arabic calligraphy
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Nayzak Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013
"Why couldn't of God made us by evolution?"
It's not that he couldn't. he could if he wanted. but that's not what he did. We Muslims don't reject evolution 100%. what we reject are parts of the evolution claim. especially that one that says man came from monkey. You see, we Muslims have a book that claims to be divine. this book was tested and checked and proved its divine origin. this book tells us that man didn't come from ape but was created from clay. Even if we can't test this claim with our limited means and knowledge, we accept it and believe it because it came from a trustful source.

"i just have to ask why god diced to make chimpanzees 96% in his image."
If I were to ask you "why did your grandfather marry a chimpanzee"? you'd certainly answer "my grandfather didn't marry a chimp. your question is based on a false information."
I say the same thing about your question. The God didn't made chimpanzees 96% in his image. at least we Muslims don't believe that. we believe the God is unlike any of his creation. how could Chimpanzees be in his image?
Go can ask this question to those who believe such thing. I believe you're asking the wrong person.

peace
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Outlawcarl Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
Ah sorry i am assuming the christian notion that God made us in his image was also shared by Muslims.
So my bad on that point, just brought up a memory of a talk i had with a Jehovah witness.
Well its more we are still monkeys rather than we came form monkeys,
as even if we didnt evolve from monkeys you cant describe what a monkey is without describing ourselves.
I mean saying we are made out of clay isnt wrong as its made out of organic matter and may well of played a big role in abiogenesis.
So i take it as a misinterpretation. I say this not because am an expert in Islam, my above misunderstanding shows that, so i dont want to misrepresent your position.
So i guess i would re-ask my question differently like why did god make chimpanzees 94% (look it up 2% off) in our image.

Hope am not being annoying just love this topic.

Peace.
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Kiniro-chan Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
For me the most obvious proof is, we are alive, day and night, the universe and our own body and mind.
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SourKiss Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
the coloring on this is quite stunning.
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StariiFey Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
xD
props for you. 
PROPS FOR YOU.
everyone else here is having religious wars while you comment about the art xD
A+

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SourKiss Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
hah ha ha... thank you~
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